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		<title>Henry Stern at 22:10, 3 April 2014</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#4B0082;&amp;quot;&amp;gt; Activating this discipline technique should be a free action, and for maximum effect, it should be instantaneous. But it costs a point of blood and lasts for only a single action. Because of is very basic level, it probably only grants the user two (2) extra dice to his or her intimidation dice pool. In all other ways, it should grant the user all the benefits of both powers for an action. -- Bruce&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#4B0082;&amp;quot;&amp;gt; Activating this discipline technique should be a free action, and for maximum effect, it should be instantaneous. But it costs a point of blood and lasts for only a single action. Because of is very basic level, it probably only grants the user two (2) extra dice to his or her intimidation dice pool. In all other ways, it should grant the user all the benefits of both powers for an action. -- Bruce&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;My thoughts were towards the idea that the user&#039;s bestial nature would become manifest with a theatrical scare. The vampires nature, (like dread gaze) would be superimposed on his/her face. I don&#039;t know whether the effect should be instantaneous or take the full round, but both level one discipline levels duration are a scene or until released. -- Morgan&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Henry Stern</name></author>
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		<title>Bruce at 06:30, 3 April 2014</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#4B0082;&amp;quot;&amp;gt; My first thought upon reading this discipline technique is that its both basic and useful, a sort of replacement for &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Dread Gaze&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, for those who don&amp;#039;t have &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Presence&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#4B0082;&amp;quot;&amp;gt; My first thought upon reading this discipline technique is that its both basic and useful, a sort of replacement for &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Dread Gaze&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, for those who don&amp;#039;t have &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Presence&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#4B0082;&amp;quot;&amp;gt; The second thought that occurred to me is that effect has the most effect if its instantaneous, and neither &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[Witness of Darkness]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; or &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[Shadow Play]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; take a turn to manifest, so with the expenditure of a point of blood the effect takes place.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#4B0082;&amp;quot;&amp;gt; The second thought that occurred to me is that effect has the most effect if its instantaneous, and neither &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[Witness of Darkness]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; or &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[Shadow Play]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; take a turn to manifest, so with the expenditure of a point of blood the effect takes place. &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;-- Bruce&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:green&amp;quot;&amp;gt;I agree - no &amp;quot;time&amp;quot; to manifest.  I do have a question though: Does this expenditure require a mental action (with at least one die) to activate, or is it simply reflexive? -Jamie&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:green&amp;quot;&amp;gt;I agree - no &amp;quot;time&amp;quot; to manifest.  I do have a question though: Does this expenditure require a mental action (with at least one die) to activate, or is it simply reflexive? -Jamie&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:green&amp;quot;&amp;gt; Another question:  The description says a &amp;quot;demon-like visage.&amp;quot;  Is the character still recognizable, or does it complete mask the character&amp;#039;s face?  It seems to me that the answer is obviously the former, but it &amp;#039;&amp;#039;should&amp;#039;&amp;#039; be spelled out to avoid confusion.  -Jamie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:green&amp;quot;&amp;gt; Another question:  The description says a &amp;quot;demon-like visage.&amp;quot;  Is the character still recognizable, or does it complete mask the character&amp;#039;s face?  It seems to me that the answer is obviously the former, but it &amp;#039;&amp;#039;should&amp;#039;&amp;#039; be spelled out to avoid confusion.  -Jamie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&quot;color:#4B0082;&quot;&gt; Activating this discipline technique should be a free action, and for maximum effect, it should be instantaneous. But it costs a point of blood and lasts for only a single action. Because of is very basic level, it probably only grants the user two (2) extra dice to his or her intimidation dice pool. In all other ways, it should grant the user all the benefits of both powers for an action. -- Bruce&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Bruce at 06:19, 3 April 2014</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#4B0082;&amp;quot;&amp;gt; My first thought upon reading this discipline technique is that its both basic and useful, a sort of replacement for &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Dread Gaze&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, for those who don&amp;#039;t have &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Presence&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#4B0082;&amp;quot;&amp;gt; My first thought upon reading this discipline technique is that its both basic and useful, a sort of replacement for &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Dread Gaze&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, for those who don&amp;#039;t have &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Presence&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#4B0082;&amp;quot;&amp;gt; The second thought that occurred to me is that effect has the most effect if its instantaneous, and neither &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Eyes &lt;/del&gt;of &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;the Beast&lt;/del&gt;]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; or &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[Shadow Play]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; take a turn to manifest, so with the expenditure of a point of blood the effect takes place.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#4B0082;&amp;quot;&amp;gt; The second thought that occurred to me is that effect has the most effect if its instantaneous, and neither &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Witness &lt;/ins&gt;of &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Darkness&lt;/ins&gt;]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; or &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[Shadow Play]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; take a turn to manifest, so with the expenditure of a point of blood the effect takes place.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:green&amp;quot;&amp;gt;I agree - no &amp;quot;time&amp;quot; to manifest.  I do have a question though: Does this expenditure require a mental action (with at least one die) to activate, or is it simply reflexive? -Jamie&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:green&amp;quot;&amp;gt;I agree - no &amp;quot;time&amp;quot; to manifest.  I do have a question though: Does this expenditure require a mental action (with at least one die) to activate, or is it simply reflexive? -Jamie&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:green&amp;quot;&amp;gt; Another question:  The description says a &amp;quot;demon-like visage.&amp;quot;  Is the character still recognizable, or does it complete mask the character&amp;#039;s face?  It seems to me that the answer is obviously the former, but it &amp;#039;&amp;#039;should&amp;#039;&amp;#039; be spelled out to avoid confusion.  -Jamie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:green&amp;quot;&amp;gt; Another question:  The description says a &amp;quot;demon-like visage.&amp;quot;  Is the character still recognizable, or does it complete mask the character&amp;#039;s face?  It seems to me that the answer is obviously the former, but it &amp;#039;&amp;#039;should&amp;#039;&amp;#039; be spelled out to avoid confusion.  -Jamie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Bruce</name></author>
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		<title>Bruce at 06:18, 3 April 2014</title>
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		<updated>2014-04-03T06:18:14Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#4B0082;&amp;quot;&amp;gt; My first thought upon reading this discipline technique is that its both basic and useful, a sort of replacement for &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Dread Gaze&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, for those who don&amp;#039;t have &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Presence&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#4B0082;&amp;quot;&amp;gt; My first thought upon reading this discipline technique is that its both basic and useful, a sort of replacement for &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Dread Gaze&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, for those who don&amp;#039;t have &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Presence&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#4B0082;&amp;quot;&amp;gt; The second thought that occurred to me is that effect has the most effect if its instantaneous, and neither &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Eyes of the Beast&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; or &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Shadow Play&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; take a turn to manifest, so with the expenditure of a point of blood the effect takes place.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#4B0082;&amp;quot;&amp;gt; The second thought that occurred to me is that effect has the most effect if its instantaneous, and neither &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[[&lt;/ins&gt;Eyes of the Beast&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;]]&lt;/ins&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; or &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[[&lt;/ins&gt;Shadow Play&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;]]&lt;/ins&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; take a turn to manifest, so with the expenditure of a point of blood the effect takes place.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:green&amp;quot;&amp;gt;I agree - no &amp;quot;time&amp;quot; to manifest.  I do have a question though: Does this expenditure require a mental action (with at least one die) to activate, or is it simply reflexive? -Jamie&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:green&amp;quot;&amp;gt;I agree - no &amp;quot;time&amp;quot; to manifest.  I do have a question though: Does this expenditure require a mental action (with at least one die) to activate, or is it simply reflexive? -Jamie&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:green&amp;quot;&amp;gt; Another question:  The description says a &amp;quot;demon-like visage.&amp;quot;  Is the character still recognizable, or does it complete mask the character&amp;#039;s face?  It seems to me that the answer is obviously the former, but it &amp;#039;&amp;#039;should&amp;#039;&amp;#039; be spelled out to avoid confusion.  -Jamie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:green&amp;quot;&amp;gt; Another question:  The description says a &amp;quot;demon-like visage.&amp;quot;  Is the character still recognizable, or does it complete mask the character&amp;#039;s face?  It seems to me that the answer is obviously the former, but it &amp;#039;&amp;#039;should&amp;#039;&amp;#039; be spelled out to avoid confusion.  -Jamie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Bruce</name></author>
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		<title>Shadow Cat at 17:35, 31 March 2014</title>
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		<updated>2014-03-31T17:35:10Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:green&amp;quot;&amp;gt;I agree - no &amp;quot;time&amp;quot; to manifest.  I do have a question though: Does this expenditure require a mental action (with at least one die) to activate, or is it simply reflexive? -Jamie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:green&amp;quot;&amp;gt;I agree - no &amp;quot;time&amp;quot; to manifest.  I do have a question though: Does this expenditure require a mental action (with at least one die) to activate, or is it simply reflexive? &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;-Jamie&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:green&amp;quot;&amp;gt; Another question:  The description says a &amp;quot;demon-like visage.&amp;quot;  Is the character still recognizable, or does it complete mask the character&amp;#039;s face?  It seems to me that the answer is obviously the former, but it &amp;#039;&amp;#039;should&amp;#039;&amp;#039; be spelled out to avoid confusion.  &lt;/ins&gt;-Jamie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Shadow Cat</name></author>
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		<title>Shadow Cat at 17:32, 31 March 2014</title>
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		<updated>2014-03-31T17:32:36Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#4B0082;&amp;quot;&amp;gt; The second thought that occurred to me is that effect has the most effect if its instantaneous, and neither &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Eyes of the Beast&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; or &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Shadow Play&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; take a turn to manifest, so with the expenditure of a point of blood the effect takes place.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#4B0082;&amp;quot;&amp;gt; The second thought that occurred to me is that effect has the most effect if its instantaneous, and neither &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Eyes of the Beast&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; or &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Shadow Play&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; take a turn to manifest, so with the expenditure of a point of blood the effect takes place.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&quot;color:green&quot;&gt;I agree - no &quot;time&quot; to manifest.  I do have a question though: Does this expenditure require a mental action (with at least one die) to activate, or is it simply reflexive? -Jamie&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Shadow Cat</name></author>
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		<title>Bruce at 04:04, 31 March 2014</title>
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		<updated>2014-03-31T04:04:25Z</updated>

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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot;&gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[Gaze of the Balrog]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[Gaze of the Balrog]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#4B0082;&amp;quot;&amp;gt; My first thought upon reading this discipline technique is that its both basic and useful, a sort of replacement for Dread Gaze, for those who don&amp;#039;t have Presence.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#4B0082;&amp;quot;&amp;gt; My first thought upon reading this discipline technique is that its both basic and useful, a sort of replacement for &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;/ins&gt;Dread Gaze&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;/ins&gt;, for those who don&amp;#039;t have &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;/ins&gt;Presence&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;/ins&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#4B0082;&amp;quot;&amp;gt; The second thought that occurred to me is that effect has the most effect if its instantaneous, and neither &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Eyes of the Beast&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; or &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Shadow Play&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; take a turn to manifest, so with the expenditure of a point of blood the effect takes place.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#4B0082;&amp;quot;&amp;gt; The second thought that occurred to me is that effect has the most effect if its instantaneous, and neither &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Eyes of the Beast&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; or &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Shadow Play&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; take a turn to manifest, so with the expenditure of a point of blood the effect takes place.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Bruce</name></author>
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		<title>Bruce at 04:04, 31 March 2014</title>
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		<updated>2014-03-31T04:04:00Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&quot;color:#4B0082;&quot;&gt; My first thought upon reading this discipline technique is that its both basic and useful, a sort of replacement for Dread Gaze, for those who don&#039;t have Presence.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&quot;color:#4B0082;&quot;&gt; The second thought that occurred to me is that effect has the most effect if its instantaneous, and neither &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Eyes of the Beast&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; or &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Shadow Play&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; take a turn to manifest, so with the expenditure of a point of blood the effect takes place.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Bruce</name></author>
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		<title>Bruce: Created page with &quot;;&#039;&#039;&#039;Gaze of the Balrog&#039;&#039;&#039;&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;a href=&quot;/Vampire/index.php/Gaze_of_the_Balrog&quot; title=&quot;Gaze of the Balrog&quot;&gt;Gaze of the Balrog&lt;/a&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[Gaze of the Balrog]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Bruce</name></author>
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