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		<title>Bruce at 04:52, 25 June 2013</title>
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[Thaumaturgy Paths]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#800000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Not to be confused with, or perhaps derived from the ancient Path of Spirit Thaumaturgy (see &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Dark Ages Companion&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; p. 107), Spirit Manipulation is a relatively recent innovation of the Tremere.  Created to replace the rituals practiced by the clan in the days when it was a band of mortal wizards, Spirit Manipulation is the art of forcing spirits into actions and situations that would normally be anathema to them.   Spirit Manipulation simulates may effects that can be created by Lupine and shamanic mages, but does so by forcing the spirits involved into a grotesque mockery of their normal behaviors.  Any botch with Spirit Manipulation not only inflicts the normal loss of Willpower involved with thaumaturgical mishaps, but also turns the full force of the spirit&amp;#039;s wrath against the offending vampire.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#800000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Note:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; The Necromantic Path of [[Nigrimancy]] has much better rules for handling the commanding and binding of Spirits - levels 3 and 4 in both paths.  Simply substitute &amp;quot;living spirit&amp;quot; or its equivalent for &amp;quot;wraith&amp;quot; or its equivalent.  This modification removes the ability to create a permanent fetish - such things should be created by individual rituals anyway.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#800000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;1)  Hermetic Sight&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#800000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;The vampire can perceive the spirit world, either by gazing deeply into it or by seeing the presence of nearby spirits as a hazy overlay on the material world.  This power does not allow the thaumaturge to see into the realms of the dead or the realms of the Fae.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#800000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;System:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;  One success on the roll is needed for the thaumaturge to perceive spirits, while two allow him to view the spirit realm.  With less than four successes, the thaumaturge is at a +2 difficulty to all actions performed while using this power due to the distraction of divided perceptions.  Hermetic Sight lasts for the duration of the scene or until the thaumaturge deactivates it.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#800000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;2)  Astral Cant&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The languages of the spirit world are infinitely varied and mainly incomprehensible to mortal (or immortal) minds.  Astral Cant does not teach the thaumaturge the tongues of the spirits, but it does allow him to understand them as they speak to him and to reply in their own languages - in effect, a universal translator for the spirit world.  Imprecise use of this power can be disastrous, particularly when a thaumaturge is bargaining with a powerful spirit.  The use of this power is not always necessary; many spirits speak human tongues but choose to feign ignorance when dealing with vampires.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#800000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;System:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#800000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;The number of successes determines the accuracy of the translation.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#800000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;1 success&amp;#039;&amp;#039;  Pidgin spirit language; very simple words and phrases can be comprehended.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#800000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;2 successes&amp;#039;&amp;#039;  Simple sentences are possible;  &amp;quot;trade language.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#800000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;3 successes&amp;#039;&amp;#039;  Fluent conversation; sufficient for most conversations.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#800000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;4 successes&amp;#039;&amp;#039;  Complex issues such as metaphysics can be discussed.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#800000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;5 successes&amp;#039;&amp;#039;  Even the most obscure idiomatic expressions and forms of humor come through.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#800000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;3)  Voice of Command&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#800000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;This is perhaps the most dangerous power in the Spirit Manipulation arsenal, for the consequences if the thaumaturge fails can be most unpleasant.  Voice of Command allows a vampire to issue orders to a spirit, compelling it to heed her bidding whether or not it desires to do so.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#800000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;System:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;  The player makes the normal Willpower roll; the target spirit resists with Willpower (difficulty of the thaumaturge&amp;#039;s Manipulation + Occult or Manipulation + Lore: Spirits).  The degree of success the thaumaturge attains determines the complexity and severity of the command that she can issue.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#800000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Botch:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;  The spirit is immune to the character&amp;#039;s commands for the rest of the night.  It reacts however the Storyteller deems appropriate.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#800000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Failure&amp;#039;&amp;#039;  The spirit is unaffected, and further attempts to command it are made at +1 difficulty (cumulative).  It may ignore, taunt or even attack the character at the Storyteller&amp;#039;s discretion.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#800000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;1 success&amp;#039;&amp;#039;  The spirit obeys a very simple command that is no great inconvenience to it.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#800000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;2 successes&amp;#039;&amp;#039;  The spirit heeds a relatively straightforward command that it is not innately opposed to performing&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#800000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;3 successes&amp;#039;&amp;#039;  The spirit agrees to perform a moderately complex task that does not violate its ethics.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#800000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;4 successes&amp;#039;&amp;#039;  The spirit consents to an extended or intricate task that does not place it in immediate danger.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#800000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;5 successes&amp;#039;&amp;#039;  The spirit accepts a lengthy or nigh-impossible task, or one that may mean its destruction.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#800000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Crafty Storytellers should note that spirits compelled by this power are fully aware that they are being forced into these actions, and may well seek revenge on their erstwhile masters at a later time.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#800000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Thaumaturges who issue commands above and beyond what their spirit servants are compelled to perform may find themselves ignored or mocked.  Even worse, a spirit in such a situation may &amp;quot;agree&amp;quot; to follow orders without following through, leaving the thaumaturge in a situation of potentially fatal embarrassment.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#800000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;4) Entrap Ephemera&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#800000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;This power allows a thaumaturge to bind a spirit into a physical object.  This can be done to imprison the target, but is more often performed to create a fetish, an artifact that allows a user to channel a portion of the spirits power through it to affect the physical world.  Fetishes created by this power are often recalcitrant and fail at inopportune moments, as the spirits within are most displeased with their situation and will take any opportunity to escape or thwart their captors.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#800000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;System:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;  The number of successes rolled determines the power level of the fetish to be created.  A fetish is activated by rolling the user&amp;#039;s Willpower (difficulty of the fetish&amp;#039;s power level +3).  A botch on this roll destroys the physical component of the fetish and frees the spirit that was trapped within.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#800000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;For more complete guidelines to fetish powers, refer to pages 273-275  of &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Werewolf: The Apocalypse&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;.  The storyteller is always the final authority in determining the powers and mechanics of a fetish created through use of this power.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#800000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;5)  Duality&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#800000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;The thaumaturge can now fully interact with the spirit world.  While using this power, he exists on both planes of existence at once.  He is able to pick up objects in the physical world and place them in the spirit world and &amp;#039;&amp;#039;vice versa&amp;#039;&amp;#039;.  Beings and landscape features in both worlds are solid to him, and he can engage in any manner of interaction.  He can even use Thaumaturgy and other Disciplines in either world.  This is not without its dangers, however:  One misstep and the vampire can find himself trapped in the spirit realm with no way to return home.  Several incautious thaumaturges have starved into torpor while trapped on the other side of the barrier that separates the physical and spirit realms.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#800000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;System:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;  The number of successes dictates how long the vampire can interact with the spirit world.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#800000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;1 success&amp;#039;&amp;#039;  One turn&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#800000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;2 successes&amp;#039;&amp;#039;  Three turns&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#800000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;3 successes&amp;#039;&amp;#039;  10 turns&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#800000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;4 successes&amp;#039;&amp;#039;  10 minutes&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#800000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;5 successes&amp;#039;&amp;#039;  The remainder of the scene&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#800000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Duality can only be used while the character is in the physical world.  Note that while Duality is in effect, the character is also susceptible to attacks  from both realms.  Additionally, the player must roll Perception + Occult (difficulty 8) when this power is activated; a roll with less than three successes indicates that all rolls made while this power is active are at +2 difficulty due to the distraction of the character&amp;#039;s dual perceptions.  The character is still considered to be in the physical world  for purposes of basic physics and common sense - for instance, his feet rest on the ground in the physical world, not the ground  in the spirit world, and he could thus walk across a spiritual chasm if a physical parking lot overlaid the same space.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#800000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;A botch on the roll to activate this power tears the vampire out of the physical word and traps him in the spirit realm.  The way back to the physical realm, if there is one, is left to the Storyteller&amp;#039;s discretion, and may constitute an entire adventure in and of itself.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Bruce</name></author>
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