Ba'ali - Revision history

Bruce: /* 7th Generation */

2026-01-19T06:28:29Z

7th Generation

← Older revision		Revision as of 00:28, 19 January 2026
Line 137:		Line 137:

	== <span style="color:#800000;">'''7th Generation''' ==		== <span style="color:#800000;">'''7th Generation''' ==
	* -- <<Azanael>> <span style="color:#800000;"> -- Lasombra turned Ba'ali. Sire and childer unknown. Ruler of Chorazin.		* -- [[Azanael]] <span style="color:#800000;"> -- Lasombra turned Ba'ali. Sire and childer unknown. Ruler of Chorazin.
	* -- <<Darak>> <span style="color:#800000;"> -- Sire of Elihu.		* -- <<Darak>> <span style="color:#800000;"> -- Sire of Elihu.
	* -- <<Delfonso>> <span style="color:#800000;"> -- Progeny of Hortator. Sire of Don Benedict and Domingo.		* -- <<Delfonso>> <span style="color:#800000;"> -- Progeny of Hortator. Sire of Don Benedict and Domingo.

Keith: /* Apostates */

2025-12-28T23:07:45Z

Apostates

← Older revision		Revision as of 17:07, 28 December 2025
Line 217:		Line 217:
	Effectively, there is a unique Baali bloodline for every Clan or bloodline who has had a former member undergo the Rite of Apostasy. This dark thaumaturgic ritual grants the Baali bloodline a "viral" property to laterally grow their ranks that no other Clan or bloodline is known to possess. The most populous bloodline of Apostates are the Lasombra known as the Angellis Ater.		Effectively, there is a unique Baali bloodline for every Clan or bloodline who has had a former member undergo the Rite of Apostasy. This dark thaumaturgic ritual grants the Baali bloodline a "viral" property to laterally grow their ranks that no other Clan or bloodline is known to possess. The most populous bloodline of Apostates are the Lasombra known as the Angellis Ater.

			* [[File:Niles St. James.jpg\|300px]] [[Niles St. James]]

			* [[File:Nigel Howard.jpg\|300px]] [[Nigel Howard]]

			* [[File:GoreRayne2.jpg\|400px]] [[Gore Rayne]]

	==Clan Variants==		==Clan Variants==

Keith: /* 7th Generation */

2025-12-28T23:06:48Z

7th Generation

← Older revision		Revision as of 17:06, 28 December 2025
Line 142:		Line 142:
	* -- <<Giotto Verducci>> <span style="color:#800000;"> -- Progeny of Antonio DeFigio. Leader of the Abbey of Mount Zion.		* -- <<Giotto Verducci>> <span style="color:#800000;"> -- Progeny of Antonio DeFigio. Leader of the Abbey of Mount Zion.
	* -- <<K'thstl>> <span style="color:#800000;"> -- Sire of Sargon.		* -- <<K'thstl>> <span style="color:#800000;"> -- Sire of Sargon.
	* -- [[Louis le Monstre]] <span style="color:#800000;"> -- Sire of [[Janine ~~Jarret~~]]		* -- [[Louis le Monstre]] <span style="color:#800000;"> -- Sire of [[Janine Jarrett]]
	:* [[Ma-ri-ah]]<span style="color:#800000;"> -- ''Mary the Black'' {[[Constantinople -- medieval]]}		:* [[Ma-ri-ah]]<span style="color:#800000;"> -- ''Mary the Black'' {[[Constantinople -- medieval]]}
	* -- [[Varro Senex]] <span style="color:#800000;"> -- The appearance of this enigmatic infernalist in November of 2022 in [[Quebec City]] may serve as a harbinger of dark portents.		* -- [[Varro Senex]] <span style="color:#800000;"> -- The appearance of this enigmatic infernalist in November of 2022 in [[Quebec City]] may serve as a harbinger of dark portents.

Keith: /* 7th Generation */

2025-12-28T23:06:12Z

7th Generation

← Older revision		Revision as of 17:06, 28 December 2025
Line 142:		Line 142:
	* -- <<Giotto Verducci>> <span style="color:#800000;"> -- Progeny of Antonio DeFigio. Leader of the Abbey of Mount Zion.		* -- <<Giotto Verducci>> <span style="color:#800000;"> -- Progeny of Antonio DeFigio. Leader of the Abbey of Mount Zion.
	* -- <<K'thstl>> <span style="color:#800000;"> -- Sire of Sargon.		* -- <<K'thstl>> <span style="color:#800000;"> -- Sire of Sargon.
			* -- [[Louis le Monstre]] <span style="color:#800000;"> -- Sire of [[Janine Jarret]]
	:* [[Ma-ri-ah]]<span style="color:#800000;"> -- ''Mary the Black'' {[[Constantinople -- medieval]]}		:* [[Ma-ri-ah]]<span style="color:#800000;"> -- ''Mary the Black'' {[[Constantinople -- medieval]]}
	* -- [[Varro Senex]] <span style="color:#800000;"> -- The appearance of this enigmatic infernalist in November of 2022 in [[Quebec City]] may serve as a harbinger of dark portents.		* -- [[Varro Senex]] <span style="color:#800000;"> -- The appearance of this enigmatic infernalist in November of 2022 in [[Quebec City]] may serve as a harbinger of dark portents.

Keith: /* 6th Generation */

2025-12-28T23:04:56Z

6th Generation

← Older revision		Revision as of 17:04, 28 December 2025
Line 133:		Line 133:
	* -- <<Petaniqua>> <span style="color:#800000;"> -- Progeny of Cybele. She was the princess of Epirus, mother of Alexander the Great. She was embraced the day Alexander assumed the throne of Macedonia. She was called Myrtale, then Olympias, then Petaniqua The Black Eyes of the Wyrm. She is totally corrupted by the Wyrm. She is the 2nd of the Red List and poses as Malkavian.		* -- <<Petaniqua>> <span style="color:#800000;"> -- Progeny of Cybele. She was the princess of Epirus, mother of Alexander the Great. She was embraced the day Alexander assumed the throne of Macedonia. She was called Myrtale, then Olympias, then Petaniqua The Black Eyes of the Wyrm. She is totally corrupted by the Wyrm. She is the 2nd of the Red List and poses as Malkavian.
	* -- <<Hortator>> <span style="color:#800000;"> -- Also known as: Tlazolteotl (Goddess of Vice). Progeny of Nezahualcoyotl. Sire of Delfonso. She is an Aztec vampire.		* -- <<Hortator>> <span style="color:#800000;"> -- Also known as: Tlazolteotl (Goddess of Vice). Progeny of Nezahualcoyotl. Sire of Delfonso. She is an Aztec vampire.
	* -- [[Jean the Butcher]] <span style="color:#800000;"> -- Also known as Ur Lodz. Sire of [[Louis Le Monstre]]		* -- [[Jean the Butcher]] <span style="color:#800000;"> -- Also known as Ur Lodz. Sire of [[Louis le Monstre]]
	* -- <<Antonio DeFigio>> <span style="color:#800000;"> -- Sire of Giotto Verducci.		* -- <<Antonio DeFigio>> <span style="color:#800000;"> -- Sire of Giotto Verducci.

Keith: /* 5th Generation */

2025-12-28T22:12:06Z

5th Generation

← Older revision		Revision as of 16:12, 28 December 2025
Line 126:		Line 126:
	* -- <<Camazotz>> <span style="color:#800000;"> -- Also known as: Nezahualcoyotl. Progeny of Huitzilopochtli. Sire of Tlazolteotl. He is an Aztec vampire. He is Hummingbird of the Left. (The Bat God)		* -- <<Camazotz>> <span style="color:#800000;"> -- Also known as: Nezahualcoyotl. Progeny of Huitzilopochtli. Sire of Tlazolteotl. He is an Aztec vampire. He is Hummingbird of the Left. (The Bat God)
	* -- <<Annazir>> <span style="color:#800000;"> -- Progeny of Moloch. Elder of Damascus during Dark Ages. Dimly recalls the great nights of his clan. Remembers the Shaitan and longs for those times again. He also longs for power, to watch events unfold directly; in essence, he's forgotten the lessons that made him an elder.		* -- <<Annazir>> <span style="color:#800000;"> -- Progeny of Moloch. Elder of Damascus during Dark Ages. Dimly recalls the great nights of his clan. Remembers the Shaitan and longs for those times again. He also longs for power, to watch events unfold directly; in essence, he's forgotten the lessons that made him an elder.
	* -- <<Cybele>> <span style="color:#800000;"> -- Believed to by the progeny of Shaitan and sire of Petaniqua. It is said, that it was she who sealed Troile and Moloch beneath Carthage. She had a taste for the blood of men who castrated themselves in her frenzied orgiastic ceremonies. It is rumored that she was present for and gave her blessing to the Blood Curse of the Assamites when it was cast upon that clan. It is widely believed that for much of her existence that she poses as a Malkavian Methuselah. She was killed by a group of thirteen vampires that were said to be of the True Brujah bloodline.		* -- [[Cybele]] <span style="color:#800000;"> -- Believed to by the progeny of Shaitan and sire of Petaniqua. It is said, that it was she who sealed Troile and Moloch beneath Carthage. She had a taste for the blood of men who castrated themselves in her frenzied orgiastic ceremonies. It is rumored that she was present for and gave her blessing to the Blood Curse of the Assamites when it was cast upon that clan. It is widely believed that for much of her existence that she poses as a Malkavian Methuselah. She was killed by a group of thirteen vampires that were said to be of the True Brujah bloodline.
	* -- <<Mary the Black>> <span style="color:#800000;"> -- Also known as: Ma-ri-ah. The probable progeny of Anaduk of Babylon. She killed many Toreador in Constantinople. Diablerised Michael in 1204.		* -- <<Mary the Black>> <span style="color:#800000;"> -- Also known as: Ma-ri-ah. The probable progeny of Anaduk of Babylon. She killed many Toreador in Constantinople. Diablerised Michael in 1204.

Keith: /* 6th Generation */

2025-12-28T20:25:14Z

6th Generation

← Older revision		Revision as of 14:25, 28 December 2025
Line 133:		Line 133:
	* -- <<Petaniqua>> <span style="color:#800000;"> -- Progeny of Cybele. She was the princess of Epirus, mother of Alexander the Great. She was embraced the day Alexander assumed the throne of Macedonia. She was called Myrtale, then Olympias, then Petaniqua The Black Eyes of the Wyrm. She is totally corrupted by the Wyrm. She is the 2nd of the Red List and poses as Malkavian.		* -- <<Petaniqua>> <span style="color:#800000;"> -- Progeny of Cybele. She was the princess of Epirus, mother of Alexander the Great. She was embraced the day Alexander assumed the throne of Macedonia. She was called Myrtale, then Olympias, then Petaniqua The Black Eyes of the Wyrm. She is totally corrupted by the Wyrm. She is the 2nd of the Red List and poses as Malkavian.
	* -- <<Hortator>> <span style="color:#800000;"> -- Also known as: Tlazolteotl (Goddess of Vice). Progeny of Nezahualcoyotl. Sire of Delfonso. She is an Aztec vampire.		* -- <<Hortator>> <span style="color:#800000;"> -- Also known as: Tlazolteotl (Goddess of Vice). Progeny of Nezahualcoyotl. Sire of Delfonso. She is an Aztec vampire.
			* -- [[Jean the Butcher]] <span style="color:#800000;"> -- Also known as Ur Lodz. Sire of [[Louis Le Monstre]]
	* -- <<Antonio DeFigio>> <span style="color:#800000;"> -- Sire of Giotto Verducci.		* -- <<Antonio DeFigio>> <span style="color:#800000;"> -- Sire of Giotto Verducci.

Keith: /* 4th Generation */

2025-12-04T04:45:58Z

4th Generation

← Older revision		Revision as of 22:45, 3 December 2025
Line 112:		Line 112:
	* -- <<Shaitan>> <span style="color:#800000;"> --		* -- <<Shaitan>> <span style="color:#800000;"> --
	* -- <<Moloch>> <span style="color:#800000;"> --		* -- <<Moloch>> <span style="color:#800000;"> --
	* -- <<~~unknown~~>> <span style="color:#800000;"> --		* -- <<Red Death/Seker>> <span style="color:#800000;"> -- (:maybe ~ -4500) Progeny of Saulot. Sire of three childer. This vampire is described in the Red Death Trilogy which has been removed from White Wolf's cannon.
			In the trilogy, Saulot has been killed by Tremere manipulated by St. Germain ; in many other sourcebooks, Saulot has manipulated Tremere into diablerising him, and has taken control of him. In both cases, the Tremere clan is manipulated...

			Named Seker, Lord of the Underworld, he was also known as the Comte de St. Germain or Count Rakoczi. He became the Red Death after his pact with the Sheddim. His existential identity is left uncertain (mage? faerie? mummy?) but we can make the hypothesis that Seker is a progeny of Saulot. He essentially created and controls completely the Tremere Clan. Like Lameth and the Giovanni, St. Germain was an "adviser" to Tremere himself, and was the one responsible for convincing him to seek immortality via the Kindred and their accursed vitae. He was even present at the very ceremony where Tremere and his Councilors diablerised Saulot, though he has conveniently erased this memory from all their minds.<br>
			The Tremere still don't realize how Seker has been manipulating them for centuries. He's stolen so many of their greatest discoveries. St. Germain hunted for the lost pages of The Book of Nod. "The Apocrypha of the Damned. The unrevealed truths of Caine, the Third Mortal, as told by Seth, his ghoul. The final secrets of the kindred. A prize equal, in value to the legendary Lameth's Cup, or the Sword of Troile. A Tremere scholar found the forgotten passage carved on the wall of an ancient tomb in the Middle East. Seker killed him before he could report the discovery to the clan elders. The formula inscribed on the stones enable him to contact Sheddim and the shattered world were described in a lost section of The Book of Enoch. There, hidden in a language so obscure that only the most dedicated scholar can unravel it, are many of the basics truths about our world and its creation.
			Seth, the third child of Adam and Eve, was the first mage. He learned these secrets from his father, who was in turn told them by the Archangel, Gabriel. Over the millennia, the sacred dealogues of Seth, the Roskmah mistarcsh, were passed down from mage to mage, until they were finally transcribed by the occult scholar Moses de Leon in The Zohar, the basis for that which became The Kaballah. Seth was first magician and was first ghoul. He was Caine's ghoul. He disappeared when the First City, Enoch, was destroyed. According to Cainite tradition, the dialogues of Set formed part of The Book of Nod. But those sections have been lost for thousands of years. They were recovered and The Red Death was born.<br>
			In the beginning, the Lord God said "Let there be light". Afterward, he created the heavens and the earth. However, if there was a need for light, originally there must have been darkness. Why darkness? The answer is simple. Before our world there were other worlds. Our universe was not first created by God. There have been other spheres. Wasn't revealed by Gabriel to Seth how many. Others existed, but they were destroyed, either by God or by their inhabitants. God in his infinite wisdom created the denizens of each sphere in his mage. However, as the Lord is all-encompassing, same as ours. Not even the substance. These beings who inhabit this plane of existence, this material dimension, have form and shape.<br>
			Humans, kindred, garou are creatures of flesh and blood. Demons and faeries when they manifest themselves take on physical form as well. Even the inhabitants of the Umbra, creations of psychic energies, and wraiths, spirits of the dead have tangible presences on our world. This fact was not always true for those spheres of reality that existed before our own. The broken spheres that is the name given to those earlier universes for though they were destroyed, nothing created by his presence can be totally annihilated. Fragments of those other realities still exist outside our universe. And, dwelling on them are creatures totally alien to our dimension.
			The Red Death in his quest for total domination of the Cainite race, he discovered the spell that enabled him to contact the inhabitants of the broken spheres. Being of living fire, they offered him a bargain. The flame creatures wanted access to our world. They cannot exist in this plane of reality, as they have no physical form. The Red Death and his brood, the Children of Dreadful Night, desired a Discipline that would enable them to wipe out all those who opposed their takeover of the kindred.<br>
			The two forces made their deal. They became partners in destruction. The Red Death believe that they are manipulating the fire elementals. That's exactly what the Sheddim want them to think. Those creatures have been scheming since the beginning of history to gain a foothold in our reality. The Red Death thinks the fire being are content to be mere observers in our plane of existence. They are not. The creatures are slowly but surely taking control of the bodies of their hosts. A few more transformation, each time the Red Death or his brood use their Body of Fire discipline, and they will become these monsters. [RD]<br>

	== <span style="color:#800000;">'''5th Generation''' ==		== <span style="color:#800000;">'''5th Generation''' ==

Keith: /* The Children */

2025-09-21T21:07:10Z

The Children

← Older revision		Revision as of 15:07, 21 September 2025
Line 285:		Line 285:
	In their first appearance, the Children were beings who predated the current universe (or at least the Light that God created in Genesis), who are destroyed by sunlight (in at least one case), and who slumber in tombs in the earth until awakened.		In their first appearance, the Children were beings who predated the current universe (or at least the Light that God created in Genesis), who are destroyed by sunlight (in at least one case), and who slumber in tombs in the earth until awakened.

	Lore of the Bloodlines describes the Children as "The First People", remnants of previous creations of God before Humanity. Here, Nergal and Moloch were already Embraced when they stumbled upon their burial sites and re-Embraced themselves as the first Baali.		'''Lore of the Bloodlines''' describes the Children as "The First People", remnants of previous creations of God before Humanity. Here, Nergal and Moloch were already Embraced when they stumbled upon their burial sites and re-Embraced themselves as the first Baali.

	The Black Hand: A Guide to the Tal'Mahe'Ra also goes into greater detail on the Children: they exist in a state of physical and psychic separation and imprisonment. Their flesh exists in the material realm, embedded in the substance of the Earth itself, in "tombs" that show no sign of construction and that have walls etched with the scars of their thrashing. In this way, they superficially resemble the Earthbound. Their minds, however, exist somewhere else, in a sea of tormented horror that is to them sweetest bliss, which more closely resembles eldritch beings like the Neverborn, Fomorians or Outer Lords.		'''The Black Hand: A Guide to the Tal'Mahe'Ra''' also goes into greater detail on the Children: they exist in a state of physical and psychic separation and imprisonment. Their flesh exists in the material realm, embedded in the substance of the Earth itself, in "tombs" that show no sign of construction and that have walls etched with the scars of their thrashing. In this way, they superficially resemble the Earthbound. Their minds, however, exist somewhere else, in a sea of tormented horror that is to them sweetest bliss, which more closely resembles eldritch beings like the Neverborn, Fomorians or Outer Lords.


Line 295:		Line 295:

	It is likely that the true nature of the Children has intentionally been left vague, so that tables can use them however they wish to do so.		It is likely that the true nature of the Children has intentionally been left vague, so that tables can use them however they wish to do so.

	~~Baali in V5~~
	~~BaaliSymbolV5~~
	~~Cults of the Blood Gods had the Baali considered being included to the book at one point, but that decision was vetoed by Paradox.[4]~~

	The Baali were eventually re-introduced to V5 in Tattered Façade, though rather than being a distinct bloodline of infernalist vampires, the title of "Baali" was retconned into an umbrella term for any Kindred that had become possessed by one of the Aapilum. The results of failed summonings and Faustian bargains gone wrong, these creatures are essentially a form of intelligent Wight - husks puppeteered by demonic forces with mysterious and macabre agendas.

	==Speculation==		==Speculation==

Keith: /* Those of Unknown Generation */

2025-09-21T21:04:45Z

Those of Unknown Generation

Show changes